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... that you did not invite Belarus, North Korea and Iran into your alliance as well!

5 Races ain't apparently enough to smoothly rule the game, are they? Better also add the Bird so there is no doubt about who has the most races in his team. You folks must really be so highly keen on winning and at the same time so deeply worried about your own abilities that your only way to victory is to accumulate as many players as possible.

Obviously you guys have not learned anything from this conversation!

This is probably the most inglorious game I have ever seen.

Unkind regards
Mike, Klingon Empire

that's why I try to play wolf games - no one accuses me of alliances there. It's a pity that there's only one game right now and I'm not playing it.

Good afternoon. I propose to organize a series of team games 3x3 or 5x5

Good afternoon. I propose to organize a series of team games 3x3 or 5x5

I support it!

Then why didn't you mind at all when 1-4-6 players in the Titan 23 game killed one pirate with them in the company of 7?

... that you did not invite Belarus, North Korea and Iran into your alliance as well!

5 Races ain't apparently enough to smoothly rule the game, are they? Better also add the Bird so there is no doubt about who has the most races in his team. You folks must really be so highly keen on winning and at the same time so deeply worried about your own abilities that your only way to victory is to accumulate as many players as possible.

Obviously you guys have not learned anything from this conversation!

This is probably the most inglorious game I have ever seen.

Unkind regards
Mike, Klingon Empire

Then why didn't you mind at all when 1-4-6 players in the Titan 23 game killed one pirate with them in the company of 7?

That game was more dynamic than it might have looked like

that's why I try to play wolf games - no one accuses me of alliances there. It's a pity that there's only one game right now and I'm not playing it.

Wolf games ain't running the way they are supposed to be either.

North Star 17 is a wonderful example: I'm sure that Bird, Klingon, Borg and Robot were not happy when their territory was picked to be expansion space by the Russian played race living close (or not so close) to them. In fact I have not seen any hint for an inner Russian conflict for the entire game and I'm pretty sure that if Stefan would review the game data he would find long and completely unguarded inner Russian borders...

Then why didn't you mind at all when 1-4-6 players in the Titan 23 game killed one pirate with them in the company of 7?

The very simple answer is: I was not aware! I was busy to stand my ground against Fascist and Borg as well and my knowledge about the rest of the map was very limited.

It seems however that you have chosen your fate on your own:
According to some information I was able to gather you and the Rebel have attacked both Borg and Fed so you can't blame them for striking back together with their 3rd ally, the Fascist. The Crystal was simply running out of enemies in his own corner so he must have joined the attack independently.

In the end, even if you were beaten by an alliance of 4 (and I strongly emphasize the subjunctive!) I can't see any right for you to complain about a situation that you and your fellow citizens are causing in virtually every game you play...

Just like I don't see any reason to complain to anyone in this game.

Just like I don't see any reason to complain to anyone in this game.

Apparently you have never heard of the cause-and-effect logic...

at0mix in Re: I'm a little surprised...:

Just like I don't see any reason to complain to anyone in this game.

Apparently you have never heard of the cause-and-effect logic...

but I see your logic - the Russian barbarians should be sitting like a mouse under a broom when the great white lord came. And when the barbarians attacked the great white lord, we will complain to the UN.

but I see your logic - the Russian barbarians should be sitting like a mouse under a broom when the great white lord came. And when the barbarians attacked the great white lord, we will complain to the UN.

The question if I regard Russians or some of them to be barbarian is a different topic which we may gladly discuss in a different thread.

This whole thread is about the Russians who play VGA Planets on this server and spoil every game they could. Some successfully, some not. Edit: In fact there have been some games where I was able to draw one or two Russian players away from their usual alliance. Don't want to leave this unsaid!

I remember when I started to play at PlanetsCentral about 5 years ago. My first game was Pleiades 16 and already back then there had been a need to form a 5-race-alliance in order to stand a ground against the Russian dominated previously formed 5-race-alliance - including the Robot who has been pressed in by threatening him with a swift and violent end otherwise. I certainly can't tell if this behavior has been shown before so I appreciate if other players are able to provide some insights.

The basic misunderstanding in your mindset seems to be that you think you have to win every game you play, whatever it may cost and moreover no matter how much it will ruin the game for the others. This is not the fucking war! This is a game we all play for fun and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

I can't tell how many players have quit playing because of their frustration about how every game begins the same. And the only way not to let them all end the same is to do the very same shit like you do: to gang together in big numbers! If you go on like this you will end up with only Tequila War games where you guys can play with yourselves...

Kobrov and darkclow, I would appreciate your comments on this matter as well. I still hope we can solve this issue and find a compromise for future games that everybody is able to accept.

Be glad-I don't sign up for alliance games anymore-just wolf games.